Is Lord Krishna Kali mata ???

Hare Krishna!

PAMHO....

   I was reading somewhere that there are a certain sect of devotees who worship Lord Krishna and Divine mother KALI....in Bengal.....as two aspects of same God......

Also there is a mantra in scriptures Om KLIM Krishnaya Namah!.......which show the oneness of Kali and Krishna. Further I came across certain sites below,which say that Srimati Radhika Maharani worshipped Lord Krishna as Mother Kali in one of Lord's pastimes.

Kindly explain in this regard ,if it cud be true.

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  • Yes , Krishna is Kali Mata. See on the link http://devdutt.com/articles/from-kali-to-krishna-a-love-song.html

    This Doubt would be more cleared when you read Chap-67 about "Original Cause of All Causes "

    from page no. 195 on the links

                       https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B598yNg5t6TvNnJsNU80SHJyYjg    or directly

                       http://veerabrahmendraswami-biography.blogspot.in/

    From Kali to Krishna : A love song
    Shiva.Kali.Radha.Krishna. Radha.Shiva.Kali.Krishna.
  • TLC

    Chapter 29

    Excerpt

    Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Maharaja has remarked that there is a class of common men who claim that anyone and everyone can worship the Supreme Lord according to his own invented mode of worship and still attain the Supreme Personality of Godhead. They claim that one can approach the Supreme Lord either through fruitive activities, speculative knowledge, meditation or austerity and that any one of the methods will succeed. They claim that one can accept many different paths and still reach the same place, and they maintain that the Supreme Absolute Truth may be worshiped either as the Goddess Kali, or Goddess Durga, or Lord Siva, Ganesa, Rama, Hari, or Brahma. In short, they maintain that it does not matter how the Absolute Truth is addressed, for all names are one and the same. They give the example of a man with many names; if he is called by any of those names, he will answer.
    Such views may be very pleasing to an ordinary person, but they are full of misconceptions. One who worships the demigods, motivated by material lust, cannot attain the Supreme Personality of Godhead. If one worships the demigods, the external energy of the Lord can award some results, but this is not to say that one can attain the Supreme Lord by such worship. Indeed, their worship is discouraged in Bhagavad-gita:
    antavat tu phalam tesham
    tad bhavaty alpa-medhasam
    devan deva-yajo yanti
    mad-bhakta yanti mam api
    "Men of small intelligence worship the demigods, and their fruits are limited and temporary. Those who worship the demigods go to the planets of the demigods, but My devotees ultimately reach My supreme planet." (Bg. 7.23) Thus the Supreme Lord awards the benediction of His association only to those who worship Him, and not to those who worship the demigods. It is not a fact that everyone and anyone can reach the Supreme Personality of Godhead by worshiping material demigods. It is therefore surprising that a man can imagine that he will become perfect by worshiping the demigods. The results of devotional service rendered in full Krishna consciousness cannot be compared to the results of demigod worship, fruitive activity or mental speculation. By the results of fruitive activities, one can either go to the heavenly planets or the hellish ones.

  • Jaya Srila Prabhupada

    Hare Krsna

    pranam!

    No, they are not one. Lord Krsna is Supreme Lord or Parambrahman and Kali devi is material energy of Lord. Material energy is always under control of Supreme enerrgetic. but from point of view that Lord is everywhere impersonally. He's one with demigods, jivas qualitatively. But They are never equal.

    We don't care which sect worship what, we are concerned with what Acharyas say. There is no need to separately worship kali devi if we worship Supreme Lord Krsna.

    Teachings of Lord Caitanya

    Chapter 5

    excerpt

    Caitanya Mahaprabhu pointed out that although (according to Padma Purana) there are different scriptures for worshiping different types of demigods, such instructions only bewilder people into thinking that the demigods are supreme. Yet if one carefully scrutinizes and studies the Puranas, he will find that Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is the only object of worship. For instance, in the Markandeya Purana there is mention of Devi worship, or worship of the goddess Durga or Kali, but in this same candika it is also stated that all the demigods—even in the shape of Durga or Kali—are but different energies of the Supreme Vishnu. Thus study of the Puranas reveals Vishnu, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, to be the only object of worship. The conclusion is that directly or indirectly, all types of worship are more or less directed to the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krishna. In Bhagavad-gita it is confirmed that one who worships the demigods is in fact only worshiping Krishna because the demigods are but different parts of the body of Vishnu, or Krishna. That such worship of demigods is irregular is also stated in Bhagavad-gita (Bg. 7.20-23  9.23) Srimad-Bhagavatam confirms this irregularity by asking the question: "What is the object of worshiping the different types of demigods?" In Vedic literature there are various divisions of ritualistic activities; one is karma-kanda, or purely ritualistic activities, and another is jnana-kanda, or speculation on the Supreme Absolute Truth. What then is the purpose of the ritualistic sections of Vedic literatures, and what is the purpose of different mantras or hymns that indicate worship of various demigods? And what is the purpose of philosophical speculation on the subject of the Absolute Truth? Srimad-Bhagavatam replies that in actuality all of these methods defined in the Vedas indicate the worship of the Supreme Lord Vishnu. In other words, they are all indirect ways of worshiping the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Sacrifices contained in the ritualistic portions of these literatures are meant for the satisfaction of the Supreme Lord Vishnu. Indeed, because yajna, sacrifice, is specifically meant to satisfy Vishnu, another name for Vishnu is Yajnesvara, or Lord of sacrifices.
    Since neophytes are not all on the same transcendental level, they are advised to worship different types of demigods according to their situation in the different modes of material nature. The idea is that gradually such neophytes may rise to the transcendental plane and engage in the service of Vishnu, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. For instance, some neophytes who are attached to flesh eating are advised by the puranas to eat flesh after offering it to the deity Kali.
    The philosophical sections of the Vedic hymns are intended to enable one to distinguish the Supreme Lord from maya. After one understands the position of maya, he can approach the Supreme Lord in pure devotional service. That is the actual purpose of philosophical speculation, and this is confirmed in Bhagavad-gita:
    bahunam janmanam ante
    jnanavan mam prapadyate
    vasudevah sarvam iti
    sa mahatma sudurlabhah
    "After many births and deaths, he who is actually in knowledge surrenders unto Me, knowing Me to be the cause of all causes and all that is. Such a great soul is very rare." (Bg. 7.19)
    It can thus be seen that all Vedic rituals and different types of worship and philosophical speculation ultimately aim at Krishna.

    • No one has true power to understand "Leela" of God......I think it's really disrespectful & sin if we say Durga & Kali are just demi-gods.......It's really wrong........If u read about Durga & Kali , u'll find that they have weapon like "Sudershan- Chakra" and this weapon is regarded MOST POWERFUL WEAPON & is the weapon of Krishna & Vishnu too......More than that the Demons which were killed by Durga & Kali had boons from Brahma that "they were not killed by anybody except women." So, Kali & Durga emerged instead Krishna & Vishnu..

      Hence, KRISHNA=KALI=DURGA=SHIVA=RADHA=RAM=VISHNU=SHIV and so on...

      Some links I provide you

      http://devdutt.com/articles/from-kali-to-krishna-a-love-song.html

      http://vedicgoddess.weebly.com/bhakti-masala-blog/radha-worships-kr...

      From Kali to Krishna : A love song
      Shiva.Kali.Radha.Krishna. Radha.Shiva.Kali.Krishna.
      • The demigods are devotees and servants of Lord, but they all together can not compare with Lord in any way. Even if all demigods together with all demons attack the Lord, they would not have a chance .

        One should know that there is many chakras as weapons in the hands of celestials, but  Sri Sudarshana is one, accepting  Lord as only master.  Similar to that, there is many divine bows in the hands of celestials, but only Sri Sharanga bow accepted only Lord as only master.

        Mother Kali is servant of the Lord :

        SB 10.2.7The Lord ordered Yoga-māyā: O My potency, who are worshipable for the entire world and whose nature is to bestow good fortune upon all living entities, go to Vraja, where there live many cowherd men and their wives. In that very beautiful land, where many cows reside, Rohiṇī, the wife of Vasudeva, is living at the home of Nanda Mahārāja. Other wives of Vasudeva are also living there incognito because of fear of Kaṁsa. Please go there.

        SB 10.2.8Within the womb of Devakī is My partial plenary expansion known as Saṅkarṣaṇa or Śeṣa. Without difficulty, transfer Him into the womb of Rohiṇī.
        SB 10.2.9O all-auspicious Yoga-māyā, I shall then appear with My full six opulences as the son of Devakī, and you will appear as the daughter of mother Yaśodā, the queen of Mahārāja Nanda.
        SB 10.2.10By sacrifices of animals, ordinary human beings will worship you gorgeously, with various paraphernalia, because you are supreme in fulfilling the material desires of everyone.
        SB 10.2.11-12Lord Kṛṣṇa blessed Māyādevī by saying: In different places on the surface of the earth, people will give you different names, such as Durgā, Bhadrakālī, Vijayā, Vaiṣṇavī, Kumudā, Caṇḍikā, Kṛṣṇā, Mādhavī, Kanyakā, Māyā, Nārāyaṇī, Īśānī, Śāradā and Ambikā.
        SB 10.2.13The son of Rohiṇī will also be celebrated as Saṅkarṣaṇa because of being sent from the womb of Devakī to the womb of Rohiṇī. He will be called Rāma because of His ability to please all the inhabitants of Gokula, and He will be known as Balabhadra because of His extensive physical strength.
        SB 10.2.14Thus instructed by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Yoga-māyā immediately agreed. With the Vedic mantra om, she confirmed that she would do what He asked. Thus having accepted the order of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, she circumambulated Him and started for the place on earth known as Nanda-gokula. There she did everything just as she had been told.
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