Who is God ?

Pamho, HK,

1.  How to answer the question fully to a person who says man was made in the image of God ?

2.  How to answer a person who takes a pose of Krishna ?

I already know 2 points:

1.  Krishna lifted Govardhana Hill on His smallest finger.  No human being can do this.

2.  Krishna showed Universal Form to Arjuna.  No human being can do this.

Please suggest some strong intellectual points so that I can fight out this type of bogus Mayavada directly or with bare hands if need be to protect devotees.

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  • Found this one with various references regarding understanding Brahman , Parmatma and Bhagavan

    https://raganugaprembhakti.wordpress.com/different-aspects-of-absol...

    Different aspects of Absolute truth
    Introduction: Understanding the confusion . Sanskrit is the most intelligent language. A single text can be interpreted by the seers of impersonal Br…
  • Certainly the quickest and most inlitning way to realize Krishna's
    supreme authority over aspect of all creation is to personally be engaged in the chanting of the Most holly names of The GodHeads Hari, Krishna & Rama.
    Because the fruits of success in meditation are spontaneous "When the holy names of Krishna. dance within the courtyard of the heart they concur the activates of the mind & all the sinces become enert" this defines the aim of meditation. It is restful for the mind & body enjoyable and enhances the awakening of awareness the intelligence.
    Imeedeitly, without any extremisms of personal austerity.
    Calling out/on The Names of The GodHeads One personally perceives the quality of the superlative authority of KRISHNA and over-time all doubts fears ignorance are eradicated from the Conditioned Mind) centPerCent-
    and reasoning and acting with good intel becomes much easier to accomplish The key hear is -
    that direct perceptions educates the mind more lastingly-than other forms of attempting to graduate the mind from the the state of (materially conditioned-to-intellectually liberated. Hari Bola!
  • Why Krishna is God?

    Do you know God’s name, qualities, address, description, history dating back to billions of years, witnessed by millions, and proven?

    If you can answer these questions, only then can you truly say you know God.

    The Vedic scriptures are the oldest scriptures in the World and the only scriptures that can answer all these questions and in detail.

    The Vedic scriptures completely describe God. His history, address, qualities, description, how he creates and maintains and so on. That God is Lord Krishna.

    1. The first requirement is that the contender for the position of the supreme has been seen.

    LordKrishnaPhotoSeeing is believing, not seeing is pure speculation.

    Lord Krishna has incarnated at least 9 times so far in the current cycle of creation. In each incarnation millions saw him. There is scientific evidence to prove that he existed 5000 years ago, as stated in the Vedic scriptures. Scientists have found the city where Lord Krishna lived in Dwarka, India, as described in the Vedic scriptures. NASA has taken satellite pictures of the bridge between India and Sri Lanka that Lord Krishna built in his Lord Ram incarnation, some 1.7 million years ago.

    2. The second requirement is that the contender’s description is known.

    How can you believe in someone without actually seeing them or knowing what they look like?

    • Lord Krishna has a form just like a human being. Even the Christian Bible states that man is made in the image of God. This means that God is a person with two hands, 2 legs and so on. That person is Lord Krishna.
    • His complexion is dark-blue, like that of a rain filled cloud.
    • His eyes are like lotus petals.
    • He is ever youthful.
    • He is full of bliss and his beauty excels that of thousand of cupids.
    • He likes to play the flute.
    • He wears a peacock feather in his crown.
    • He wears the Kaustubha jewel around his neck.
    • He wears yellow garments.

    Lord Krishna is complete in six kinds of opulence – wisdom, beauty, fame, power, wealth, and renunciation.

    3. The third requirement is that the contender’s divinity is proven.

    Vishwaroop

    Anyone can claim to be God, but who can actually prove it?

    To protect innocent people from imposters, Arjuna asked Lord Krishna to prove his divinity.

    Lord Krishna granted Arjuna divine vision and revealed his spectacular unlimited forms as the cosmic universe. Thus he conclusively established his divinity.

    “Arjuna saw in that universal form unlimited mouths, unlimited eye, unlimited wonderful visions. The form was decorated with many celestial ornaments and bore many diving upraised weapons. He wore celestial garlands and garments, and many divine scents were smeared over his body. All was wondrous, brilliant, unlimited, all expanding. If hundreds of thousands of suns were to rise at once into the sky, their radiance might resemble the effulgence of the supreme person in that universal form.”(Bhagavad-Gita 11.10-12)

    In each incarnation, Lord Krishna proved that he was God, all the details can be found in the Srimad Bhagavatam. Here we will focus on his incarnation 5000 years ago.

    Lord Krishna performed miracles that no other being can perform.

    • When Lord Krishna was 7 years old, he lifted a mountain (26 miles in perimeter) and held it up with his one hand for 7 days. Witnessed by tens of thousands of people who were standing underneath the mountain.
    • Lord Krishna expanded his body into 16,108 forms. Which means he duplicated his body into 16,108 identical bodies.
    • Lord Krishna transformed himself into others. This means he can make himself into a copy of anyone.
    • Lord Krishna showed in his mouth, the whole Universe.
    • Lord Krishna granted Arjuna divine vision and reveled his spectacular unlimited form as the cosmic universe. In which Arjuna could see the various forms of Lord Krishna, and unlimited Planets while being seated in one place. He was also shown the past, present, and future.
    • Lord Krishna killed all the wicked Kings who were tormenting and harassing the public. People were saved in this very life and didn’t have to wait for the Day of Judgment.
    • When a woman called Draupadi was disrobed in a court of kings, she called out to Lord Krishna for help and he supplied her with an unlimited sari and thus she could not be disrobed.
    • Many atheists tried to kill Lord Krishna, but Lord Krishna very easily defeated them all and also gave them on the spot liberation. Lord Krishna is most merciful; he gives liberation even to those who try to kill him. The Lord can give on the spot liberation; one does not need to wait for the Day of Judgment.
    • Lord Krishna brought back to life many dead people including the six children of Devaki.
    • Lord Krishna cured diseased people including transforming a hunchback woman into a most beautiful woman in return for offering sandalwood pulp to the Lord.

    4. The fourth requirement is that the contender’s qualities are known and proven

    Lord Krishna has 64 qualities, which are all mentioned in the Vedic scriptures.

    Supreme Father:

    “It should be understood that all species of life, o son of Kunti, are made possible by birth in this material nature, and that I am the seed giving father” (Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 14.4)

    “I am the father of this universe, the mother, the support and the grandsire”(Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 9.17)

    Supreme Creator: Lord Krishna is the origin of all.

    “The whole cosmic order is under me. By my will it is manifested again and again, and by my will it is annihilated at the end” (Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 9.8)

    “Furthermore, O Arjuna, I am the generating seed of all existences. There is no being, moving or unmoving, that can exist without me” (Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 10.39)

    “I am the source of all spiritual and material worlds. Everything emanates from Me. The wise who perfectly know this engage in My devotional service and worship Me with all their hearts”(Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 10.8)

    “Of all that is material and all that is spiritual in this world, know for certain that I am both the origin and the dissolution” (Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 7.6)

    Supreme Controller: Lord Krishna is the supreme controller.

    “I give heat, and I withhold and send forth the rain” (Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 9.19)

    “With a single fragment of myself I pervade and support this entire universe”(Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 10.42)

    Supreme Maintainer:

    “The splendor of the sun, which dissipates the darkness of the whole world, comes from me. And the splendor of the moon and the splendor of fire are also from me” (Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 15.12)

    “I enter into each planet, and by energy they stay in orbit” (Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 15.13)

    “This material nature, which is one of my energies is working under my direction”(Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 9.10)

    Omnipresent: Lord Krishna is omnipresent, meaning he is present everywhere.

    “I am the supersoul, O Arjuna, seated in the hearts of all living entities, I am the beginning, the middle, and the end of all beings” (Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 10.20)

    Omnipotent: Lord Krishna is omnipotent, meaning he is the greatest.

    “There is no truth beyond Me. Everything rests upon Me, as pearls are strung on a thread”(Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 7.7)

    Omniscient: Lord Krishna knows the past, present, and the future.

    “O Arjuna, I know everything that has happened in the past, all that is happening in the present, and all things that are yet to come. I also know all living entities” (Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 7.26)

    “Many, many births both you and I have passed. I can remember all of them, but you cannot!”(Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 4.5)

    There is Only One God:

    “Those who are devotees of other gods and who worship them with faith actually worship only me, O son of Kunti, but they do so in a wrong way. I am the only enjoyer and master of all sacrifices. Therefore, those who do not recognize my true transcendental nature fall down”(Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 9.24)

    5. The fifth requirement is that the contender’s history dating back to Billions of years is known.

    Krishna IncarnationsFull details on the pastimes of Lord Krishna in each of his incarnations can be found in the Srimad Bhagavatam.

    The Vedic scriptures contain the history of Lord Krishna dating back to billions of years.

    6. The sixth requirement is that the contender’s supremacy is mentioned in authorized scriptures.

    The Vedic scriptures are the only scriptures that have existed since the beginning of time, and thus eternal and the absolute truth. There is no higher authority than that of the Vedic scriptures.

    Lord Brahma who is the first created living being states in Brahma Samhita:

    “Krishna who is known as Govinda is the supreme godhead. He has an eternal blissful spiritual body. He is the origin of all. He has no other origin and he is the prime cause of all causes.” (Brahma Samhita 5.1)

    After Describing various incarnations of the Lord such as Rama, Balrama, Vamana, Nrsimha, and Vishnu, Sukadeva Goswami states:

    “All of the above mentioned incarnations are either plenary portions of portions of the plenary portions of the Lord, but Lord Krishna is the original Personality of Godhead” (Srimad Bhagavatam 1.3.28)

    Lord Shiva in the Gita Mahatmya states:

    “Only one God – Krishna, the son of Devaki (verse 7)

    In the Padma Purana it is stated:

    “By scrutinizingly reviewing all the revealed scriptures and judging them again and again, it is now concluded that Lord Narayana is the supreme absolute truth, and thus he alone should be worshipped”

    In the Skanda Purana it states:

    “In the material world, which is full of darkness and dangers, combined with birth and death and full of different anxieties, the only way to get out of the great entanglement is to accept loving transcendental devotional service to Lord Vasudeva.”

    The position of Krishna as God is confirmed by great personalities like Narada, Asita, Devela, Parasara, Brahma, and Shiva.

    7. The seventh requirement is that the contender’s address is known.

    The Srimad Bhagavatam gives the address of Lord Krishna as:

    The top most Planet shaped like a Lotus called Goloka Vrindavana in the spiritual universe called Vaikuntha.

    Conclusion

    Everyone is looking for God, well here is the person God, Lord Krishna. Since you do not know anyone else with the details and proof just mentioned. Why don’t you accept him? (Reference ‘Courtesy of Bhagavad-Gita.ws’)

    http://iskconbirmingham.org/why-krishna-is-god

  • E-Counselor

    Hare Krsna Prabhuji,

    PAMHO.

    1. Yes, man was made in the form of God. God, in His original form, is two handed, so is man. Krsna is God. So wahts the problem?

    2. Simply taking pose of Krsna does not make anyone Krsna. Imitation is the best form of flattery. By taking the pose of Krsna, he is simply acknowledging that Krsna is God. No problems in that also. You could suggest to him that the gait has to be more pronounced, there has to be an enchanting smile on the face and the person should think of Krsna in full devotion at the time of making this pose to be effective.

     

    Give this person some prasadam, keep on talking to him till he wants to take a nature break. Then stop him from going and point out that if he cannot even control nature's call, how can he control nature? There are somany ways prabhu. Pinch him and ask whether it hurt? Tell him how can it hurt it he is God.

     

    You dont get hassled. Take it with a pinch of humor and with humor itself you can defeat this person.

    Haribol,

    Your servant,

    Radha Rasamayi DD

  • Volunteer

    Hare Krsna,
    My obeisances to all devotees, guru and gauranga.

    There is no need to get into some intellectual arguments with your friends over Krsna's supremacy. Just donate your friend a copy of Bhagvad Gita As It Is and some prasad along with it. Leave what comes out of it to Srila Prabhupad and Krsna.

    By this way, you are doing your part in spreading KC but still being not attached to the fruits of such labor.

    Srila prabhupada ki jai..

    Hare krsna

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