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Hare KRsna Prabhuji,
I am surprised to get this post from you. The world is very much real - we can see it, feel it and touch it. The scriptures also say that the world is temporary and full of miseries. I dont remember reading anywhere that the world itself and whatever we are experiencing is unreal. I have read - dukhalayam ashaswatam and anityam asukham lokam - these 2 phrases for the world.
Radha Rasamayi DD
Those who teach that this world is real can not know transcendental knowledge, therefore following such philosophy will not save anyone from the illusion.
Jaya Nitai!!! This world is real in the sense that it is manifest from the Maya Shakti of Lord Gauranga Krishna. Maya cannot be an illusion according to us (only the Mayavadis believe it is), therefore this world is real. Baladeva Vidyabhusana in the Prameya Ratnavali (3rd Chapter) says:
sva-shaktya shrishtavan vishnur
yathartham sarva-vij jagat
ity uktah satyam evaitad
"Because omniscient Lord Vishnu created this material world with His own potency,therefore it is real. The word asat used to describe the material world in the Vedas should be interpreted to mean temporary, not unreal. Describing the temporality of this world, the Vedas instruct us in the importance of renunciation."
While the world itself is real,the experience of the world is an illusion, because the Jivas act under the illusion that they are the enjoyers (when only Sri Gauranga Krsna is the Sumpreme Enjoyer). While Maya is real, she has the power to cause illusion in the mind of the Jiva and that is why sometimes scriptures compare it to a dream. This is confirmed in the first verse of Bhagavatam (muhyanti yat sūrayaḥ tejo-vāri-mṛdāṁ yathā vinimayo yatra tri-sargo ’mṛṣā) However, the world is not a dream in the sense that it is false.
Its seems Sri Krishna took mayavadi philosophy . lol :)
Millions read holy scriptures, but only some of them are studying it, from those who studying, only some of them completely understands it. Therefore only those who fully understands it, are qualified to see the truth.
Jaya Nitai! If you read the verse Prabhuji, it says the experience of material life is false, material nature itself is not false. The world cannot be an illusion because it has been manifest out of the Maya Shakti of Lord Hari, which is real. I completely agree with your statement, many read the scriptures, but only those who read under the guidance of a pure devotee can understand its confidential meaning. If Baladeva Vidyabhusana who wrote the Govinda Bhasya (the Gaudiya commentary of the Vedanta Sutra) says the world is real, then we should accept his conclusion because he is a pure devotee of our line.
Also another issue. The verses you are quoting from, are from Uddhava Gita, which Srila Prabhupada did not translate and write purports to. The chapter is very often mistranslated by many individuals in a very impersonalistic way. That is why, as Vaishnavs we should be very very careful when dealing with this chapter. Always read it in accordance with the understanding of our previous Acharyas.
Philosophical speculations are so usefull, because its often a tool for keeping blind philosophers away from the Absolute Truth.
Krishna said, Bhaktya Mam Avijanathi
Only pure devotee, someone like Prabhupada, Bhakti Vinod Thakur, Haridas Thakur, Bhakti Sidhanta Saraswati etc can know Krishna.
Rest of us, just use imagination, with our mind :D
Bg 7.3 — Out of many thousands among men, one may endeavor for perfection, and of those who have achieved perfection, hardly one knows Me in truth.