Hare Krishna,

Today i don't know the way to start my question.

A bhaktin ( woman) like me, also in a few years of KC, did share to me today ( in Ekadashi day) that she want to start to eat again fish, special shrimps, codfish, some sushi eat diferent type of fish, like salmon and so on and.. i didn't know what i really to say to her, in first minutes i was a little without reaction, after i try to think and tell her that Krishna likes all living entities, and was a little discussion because she ask me about that we take fruits, we cut kale, we cut live flowers to do guirlands, "we" kill them, and why she cannot eat fish also praticated KC,like japa, reading book, also Srila Prabhupada books.. And i was block, i didn't know what to say. I remenber to put the situation here, and let see what is the answers.

In this situations i have some questions:

1- what to do or to tell to someone that stop eating meat fish eggs and now she wants to start again?

2 - what happen to the evolution?

3 - If "we kill" living flowers to do guirlands, fruits and vegetables and cereals why she cannot eat fish? What to tell?

4 - Why she did say to me all this things in Ekadashi day? have some meaning?

5 - What happen to a person that eat fish but continues to japa, reading SP books, take care dieties?

Thank you

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  • Chanting helps one renounce attachment to eating. So chanting can bring anyone back when they desire it to be so! ?
    • Cow protection, protection of the innocent(×) check & to defeat the evel & the wiked. ×Check
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      Chant Properly (x)?
  • Hare Krishna Mataji,

    All glories to Srila Prabhupad.

    Answer to 1st  & 3rd question...

    1. Normally these foods come under the Tamsic food , so you could tell her by eating all these we will get tamo guna (ANger, Greed, Lust, Anxiety & all bad qualities) which will spoil her spiritual life in KC.

    3.Normally vegetable trees , flower and all kind of green vegetable You would have noticed if their fruits or flower is not plucked on time that will be spoiled in due course of time or it will be rotten. While plucking fruits or flowers they don't feel any pain because by nature these are intent to serve. By nature if no one is plucking the flowers or fruits on time it will falls down automatically on earth as per law of nature. and they are happy to serve living beings.

    And in the case of animal we could see pain they go through while killing.

    At last try your best & leave the rest to Lord Krishna because we (Including Lord Krishna) don't have right to interfere in ones free will to chose something.

    Please forgive me for any offence.

    Radhe Radhe,

    Your Servant

    Sibaram

    • E-Counselor

      Hare Krishna Sibram Prabhu,

      You said,"At last try your best & leave the rest to Lord Krishna because we (Including Lord Krishna) don't have right to interfere in ones free will to chose something."

      You are not right to say that Krishna,the Supreme Personality of God Head is included like us to not interfere ones's free will.

      This is the mistake to think," Krishna is one of like us.

      In B.G 9.11. "

      avajānanti māṁ mūḍhā
      mānuṣīṁ tanum āśritam
      paraṁ bhāvam ajānanto
      mama bhūta-maheśvaram
      Translation: 
      Fools deride Me when I descend in the human form. They do not know My transcendental nature as the Supreme Lord of all that be.
      Again, in B.G, Krishna says: 9.10:
      mayādhyakṣeṇa prakṛtiḥ
      sūyate sa-carācaram
      hetunānena kaunteya
      jagad viparivartate
      Translation: 
      This material nature, which is one of My energies, is working under My direction, O son of Kuntī, producing all moving and nonmoving beings. Under its rule this manifestation is created and annihilated again and again.
      So, t
      Krishna is the cause of all causes.(sarva karanam karanam).
      To think a prisoner is independent of the wills of the supreme wills of the Prison Superintendent, is a foolish- thought.
      Yes, Krishna can interfere in one's free will only if one is His Pure Devotee. Then Krishna can make His pure devotee to dance according to His wills--Just like His pure devotee Srilla Prabhupada.
      Thank you,
      Hare Krishna!
      • Hare Krishna Karuna Prabhuji,

        PAMHO

        Please forgive me from committing the offence. Out of ignorance I have written like that.

        Yes I completely agree in your above points.

        Thank you so much for showing me the right knowledge.

        Radhe Radhe,

        Your Servant

        Sibaram

        • E-Counselor

          Sorry to response you in late as I was busy. Any how, you got the realization about your ignorance of position of  the Supreme Personality of God Head, is great! Krishna says in Bhagavad Gita," dadati budhi yogam,yena mam upayate te...." Krishna gives the intelligence to the devotees by which one comes to Him.

          We are all in the process of better realization day to day by the mercy of Guru and Gouranga.

          Keep inquiring without any mental concoction from Sadhu,Guru and Sastra.

          Thank you,

          Hare Krishna!

  • Hare Krishna Mataji,

    for 1st and 3rd questions:

    According Scriptures Human beings shouldn't eat non-vegterian food (including onion and Garlic),if any body takes they have to take lower births. Suppose Tiger can eat only non vegterian food if we offer a fruit or vegterian food it doesn't eat, like this Cow can eat only vegterian food if we offer non-veg it doesn't eat So there is no chance to get lower births from their stages.animals follow their Dharma's strictly But Human beings are so intelligent they break the their dharma's so we get the lower births.

    if any body supports to meat eating he also get funish total seven members include those who buy,those who cook , those who sell, those who bring, those who eat and ..... so .

    4. Ekadashi is a pious day we should utilise this day for devotion with diet to remember ,decrease the bodily activities increase the spirtul activities (like chanting and hearing about krishna and scriptures study).we need to careful this day , maya is so strong it came like that way we should avoid that type of topics very gently.if we pass that day we become purifie.

    Yours Servant,

    Suresh.

  • One might say that a real brahmen are devotees of Vishnu 1st. Or at least equally during early training.
    I went to Iskcon's finnest training schools. & Vishnu is supose to be Guru of the Brahman.
    Krishna is guru of everyone.
    As I understand it. No Vishnu no progress! Ok
  • ISKCON Thrugh (HARAY NAHMA )
    Sankierthona.
    Chanting should never be intimidating.
    Just do it properly
    Punishment & transcendence are
    Contradictionsn. Rule # 1 don't concoct, take nothing for granted, take the practice sereusly, Always
    pronounce (all Mantras & Names)- properly.* to the best of your abilities this is a yogic task 1st.
    That is our one-concern & service for ourselves & for God&Hi's creation.
    & it should never bear (one) bogus fruit!
    It's always something (we) are doing wrong not the mantra. Eternaty Truth & transcendent' that is what the mantra is.
    The chef Seek was wrong the laws in fact levey equally on all ! Chant property & receive & produce great results chant likezChakka ugbuga & time will run out & your world be in a reck. I.e.your personal progress in demonstrating your sincear intentions to be & serve at your highest & best abilities for the greater good. This is our (one) Shot, karma might take us down any road this we do no. So the time to put your game face onb & act just like Yoga is' working within your wheelHouse. & you wan't to become one of the best while serving Krishna. & Sri Sri Rama.
    No Devote sincerely situated in SatyaGunna & is not taking as much or more shelter of Vishnu & Hi"s ashrams is missing out on (A hhugly importent point Vishnu is Rama the protector the maintainer. I got that understanding early on and in a (veary real) sence the affiliation with Vishnu for the bhakti is of paramount importance in acomplishing Self & God realization. Train the intelligence. To direct the mind to do good / your best in faith that the more that the mind experiences the eternal dinamics of the Spirit of eternaty, the sooner it won't be destructed by the folly of the ego seeking but not excerpting the truth of it's non- Significance.
    & stoped being baffled by Hi's all prevading presence & intellagence.
    Nows the time to not be joaking around w/the binamic nNames and Mantras of the Sanscrept Veadas. Thatcs what time it really is' time to turn this karmicCar around. Sri Sri Vishnu Sri Vishnu Sri Vishnu OM TAT DAT!
  • Haribolo, hk,
    I was eating codfish during christmad. my father went to poland and bought it cheaper. This energy of eating codfish tranfered to this devotee youre talking mentally. BUT. I eat mcdonalds coffee etc., because I dont habba my own flatty and dear parents are against me being vegetarian. in other words am failure. Anyway beautiful Krushna arrived in my room sculpture. And slowly im getting ahimsa again.
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